Don’t distort our speech!

Many activists reject our movement and consider us as some Zionist machinery because in the manifesto, we’ve been denouncing Hamas – among others. It’s always amazing to see the shortcuts people’s minds can take and how good they are at condemning without even trying to understand. We’d like to remind all our goal: yes we are frustrated and tired of being oppressed, killed, humiliated and kept from even leaving to study in other countries, yes we denounce political parties governing us because they didn’t help in anything, but we denounce ALL of them, not ONLY Hamas. We are TIRED of the status quo, from all sides. Political parties have all had the time and chances to BRING THE CHANGE, but we haven’t seen anything yet.

We’re NOT calling for a political coup, let’s be clear on this. We’re young people who want to work for the PEOPLE, we denounce the misery we live in, we denounce their division, and reject their fight, because they are not helping us. But more than Fatah and Hamas, who remains Palestinians just like us, ABOVE ALL we denounce the Occupier & its puppet the International Community who fails, day after day, in its duty to impose sanctions on “Israel”.

Our followers, readers, and those who are not supporting us yet must keep in mind THIS message: we have ONE enemy which is the Zionist Occupier. Hopefully this call will shake our political leaders, wake them up and remind them that they are responsible of us! Hopefully they will realize that what we want is UNITY, and NO MORE DIVISION, because it makes Israeli terrorism’s impact on our lives even worse.

Our call is a call for SOLIDARITY, a call for PEACEFUL ACTION; we are holding out our hands & waiting for you to complete the bond. Make sure this is read, help us work for a better solution, HELP US MAKE IT!

And Please note this, the Gaza Youth Breaks Out Team have been banned from posting anything on the Facebook page; we want you to go there and flood the page with your love to Palestine so those who misinterpreted our message can leave us.

Love and respect from Gaza,

GYBO Team

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  1. #1 by Mike Ricks on January 5, 2011 - 2:52 am

    Do you have enough cellphones for taking jpegs, movies and texting so you can get the message out on the web.

    • #2 by GYBO Team on January 5, 2011 - 9:51 am

      Well, aren’t the proofs you can find on the internet good enough? =) Many websites talk about the situation in Gaza, many many. We’ll try to gather Palestinian bloggers’ work.

      • #3 by Mike Ricks on January 5, 2011 - 1:58 pm

        A list of blogs on Gaza would be very useful GYBO.
        My original question was more to do with communications equipment-access to cellphones in particular – for everyday citizen journalism. Are your communications being monitored or restricted by any agency?
        Documentary evidence speaks most strongly on the web. When we saw the phosphorous trails from Operation Cast Lead we all knew that a war crime had been committed. Our media here in Canada and the US don’t cover a story unless it has become obvious that not to do so damages their credibility. My advice is to document every incident you can.
        Stay strong: the world is watching.

      • #4 by JeffAnderson on January 6, 2011 - 12:34 pm

        One collection of blogs from Gaza can be found here:
        http://mondoweiss.net/gaza-two-years-later

        • #5 by GYBO Team on January 7, 2011 - 6:42 pm

          Thanks a lot, really helpful.

  2. #6 by occupiedpalestine on January 5, 2011 - 6:21 am

    JazzakAllahu khair reblogged and subscribed.
    http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/message-from-gaza-youth-breaks-out-retrospection-nr-1/
    Fi Aman Wa Noor Allah,
    Wa Salaam ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,

  3. #8 by Tony Taylor on January 5, 2011 - 11:53 am

    We have posted your eloquent and moving manifesto on our Critically Chatting wordpress site –
    http://criticallychatting.wordpress.com/

    and linked to it from the In Defence of Youth Work Campaign site –
    http://www.indefenceofyouthwork.org.uk/wordpress/

    Sadly the smears and slurs against your name are inevitable. Rest assured we will keep spreading the word.

    Guard jealously your autonomy – it is most precious.

    In solidarity and respect

    Tony

  4. #9 by roy on January 5, 2011 - 10:15 pm

    Your message is clear and you can expect negative response from sectarian sections who fight among themselves for total leadership control. Those who refuse to unite to challenge a large-scale oppression, because of smaller differrences in opinion or religious membership, assist the enemy. The powerful try to diviide and thus conquer or continue to conquer. Sectarians of all shades make the task of the powerful that much easier. Indeed it is not unknown for the powerful to send people into solidarity movements to create or intensify sectarian divisions. Sectarians always arrogantly assume they have all the answers and everyone else is mistaken.

    You have made your point clearly and concisely and you call for solidarity and unity and respect for differences. That is indeed the only real basis for progress in resisting the oppressive regimes, including the one oppressing you.

    Roy

  5. #10 by empire falling someday on January 6, 2011 - 1:46 pm

    If I could and there was a way to bring thousands of us of like mind to Gaza or Israel for non-stop non-violent demonstrations until something changed – I would. March to the wall and tear it down – make the zionists do something stupid so the world couldn’t ignore…and then march again and again until the zionists only choice would be either be mass murder or letting the Gazans go where they please. My spirit is willing – my flesh may be weak. God give us courage to creatively and peacefully resist the evil empires of the US and zionist Israel.

  6. #11 by Laila on January 7, 2011 - 8:59 pm

    hello everyone
    I have compiled a comprehensive list of Gaza bloggers if anyone is interested (divided based on location and background)

    • #12 by GYBO Team on January 7, 2011 - 9:49 pm

      Sure thing. We want to concentrate all what Palestinian youths may bring as testimonies, stories, artwork. Your list will be most helpful!

  7. #13 by Peter on January 7, 2011 - 11:13 pm

    What is your ultimate goal? What sort of state do you want to build? Is there room at all for Israel or a Jewish state, or even Jews? What do you mean by “Zionism?” Israelis have wildly differing opinions about the country- club kids in Tel-Aviv may not care about settlements, but Haredim in Jerusalem do care; both groups are able, in whatever fashion, to live together in one country, despite their irreconcilable mindsets, despite hating each other.

    I’m not saying here that Israel’s actions are totally justified, but I am saying that I’m sure that most Israelis want what you want; “We want three things. We want to be free. We want to be able to live a normal life. We want peace.” Hamas and other terrorist groups make it so that to allow for its own citizens to be free, Israeli leaders, I think, feel that they must take drastic action against other people, to crush the real enemies of freedom. Whichever action must come first- the end of embargoes, airstrikes and military campaigns or suicide bombings, kidnappings and rocket attacks- I can’t say. But I can say that those in charge of Israel’s forces are not all hard-liners, and they don’t wish for the Palestinian people to be removed from the Earth, as those in charge of Hamas’ forces wish. Hamas is your real enemy, as are their friends in Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood and all those who wish Israel totally destroyed. They fight against the rights of the Israeli people to “be free…be able to live a normal life… [to have] peace,” and in so doing, they destroy your ability to be free.

    I bid you all the best in your struggle to be free. Just don’t destroy that right for others.

    • #14 by GYBO Team on January 7, 2011 - 11:27 pm

      “Drastic action against other people to crush the real enemies of freedom”?! Seriously? So if I follow well your idea, Israel does what it does – let’s call it by its name: terrorism – for our well being? *cough cough cough*

      No, I think you got mixed up. Like totally mixed up. What does Israel by occupying more and more lands, destroying more farms, more houses, chasing people from their own homes? Helping them fight “their real enemies”? Come on, don’t make a joke of yourself, go read History.

      Hamas and Hezbollah and Fatah and the UFOS and the Chimpunks are not our enemies. We have ONE enemy; Zionism. And FYI, by Zionism we mean that thirst for Palestinian genocide, for erasing the word Palestine from the History books, that catastrophe that poured on our nation the day Theodore Herlz issued his damned book calling the “Chosen People” to emigrate to the “Promised Land” empty from any inhabitant. By Zionism we don’t mean Jews, who have been our neighbors for centuries, and with whom we used to live in peace.

      • #15 by Peter on January 8, 2011 - 7:07 am

        Israel acts to protect its own citizens from groups that wish not only to destroy the state of Israel, but to oppress all those who do not share their authoritarian version of Islam. In doing so, Israel ends up oppressing those who want nothing to do with that plan. There is no great conspiracy against the Palestinian people, but there is a great conspiracy against the Jewish people, and against all those who wish to lead their lives as they see fit for themselves instead of submitting to the strictures of Islam as interpreted by various Islamist totalitarian groups around the world and especially in the Middle East. You want to live your lives as you see fit for yourselves; Israelis wish the same. Hamas wishes to impose upon you a manner of life you would not choose for yourself, and schemes to extend its perfidy to the entire world, first in Gaza and the West Bank, then to Israel, then in concert with others, to all corners of the Middle East and around the world.

        In their fight against this threat, not only against them but against everyone in the world, Israel has helped to inflict suffering upon you that you do not deserve, but is not borne of hatred or bloodlust or religious fervor or greed or need for land, but of what they see as necessity to protect what they have against car bombs and suicide attacks and rockets. Israel wants to allow its citizens to live the lives they choose to live, free from this danger.

        It is possible to negotiate with the Israelis; they are willing to give up land to live in peace. It is impossible to negotiate with Hamas; they will never change their drive to oppress. You will never get the Israelis to agree to dismantle their state, or via a Palestinian right of return to allow their state to change in such a way that the Jews no longer feel secure in their lives, but settlements and land are negotiable. The Israelis want the same things you want, and are willing to give up certain things to ensure peace. Hamas wants exactly what you do not want, and will never give up anything, and will never want peace.

        I feel I must say something about the establishment of both main groups you’re fighting against, however brief and however much glossed over that statement may be. I think, however, that this statement should, in some crude way, bring to light at least the faintest of reasons why you should look more favorably on Israel than you do on Hamas.

        Israel was founded after the most infamous genocide in the world, a horrifically industrialized program of death designed to kill everyone who had Jewish ancestors because they had Jewish ancestors, in the largest, most coordinated act against a group oppressed for centuries because of their religion and shared heritage. Israel was founded so that the survivors of the Holocaust could start their lives anew, free of the old oppressions and prejudices of Europe. They were given the opportunity to build lives as they saw fit, free from those fears and that most recent, most terrible memory. The first Israelis wanted now what you now want, and by their actions, their descendants can live their lives as they wish.

        Unfortunately, the land they were given, fairly or unfairly, already had people living there, who detested the Jews partly because of Nazi propaganda fed to them by religious leaders like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, whose admirers founded the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and from there eventually Hamas and Hezbollah, which now are supported by the Ayatollahs in Iran, another place where an oppressively strict form of Islam is imposed on the people, who like you cry out for freedom against terrible oppression.

        Please excuse the length of the reply. I merely wanted to say that the actions of the Israelis come from the same place as your grievances, and the actions of Hamas and similar organizations come from an entirely different strain totally opposed to what you wish to achieve for yourselves. It is 2:00 AM where I am writing, but I felt I needed to do this.

        However misguided Israel’s actions, they come from a rational place, to allow them to keep what freedom they have for themselves. Hamas and their allies take their actions from an irrational, anti-liberal place, designed to oppress everyone.

        • #16 by GYBO Team on January 8, 2011 - 9:54 am

          No Peter, we elected Hamas, it’s not perfect, but regarding Israel, it’s just as it should be and any group fighting Israel has our full support. Sorry to disappoint you – or not actually, not sorry. Yesterday’s oppressed are today’s oppressor. Come and live in Palestine you’ll surely notice that at once, when soldiers come and kill a n elderly man in his bed (he had leukemia, what kind of threat was he?!). Anyway, it seems like it’s just a waste of time to debate with you as you seem SO convinced that poor Israel are the victims. Come on, they are the 3rd army of the world…

        • #17 by someone from the Western World. on January 24, 2011 - 5:56 pm

          I totally agree with you, Peter. Hamas and alike use their folk for their own agenda. And if they should win, this world got a bit darker. I feel sorry for most Gaza people, because their minds are too closed to see the real enemy of a free live. But maybe the “traditional” life of Afghanistan serves as a role model for the Gaza. They vote for a party which makes the whole situation even worse and blame others that it got worse. They listen to stupid ideology of Hamas and do not understand that Israel action is only driven by securing the safety of its people. Hamas instead tries to drag its citizens into a war and justifies their death as a need to serve an ideology (i.e. the day Gaza was given back rockets were shot into Israel. Also they fire rockets from areas knowning that the response from Israel will kill civilians). They preach hatred and glorify killings.

          Peter, thank you for pointing out the differences of the origins of both party’s actions. I totally agree.

          I thought Gybo might be a different mindset that could see the cruelty of Hamas, too, and finally start to take a moderate view as a basis for negotiations. Instead they use the same stupid arguments and conspiracies to justify that it is the other side, who is incapable of doing things. The western world has done more than enough and we wouldn’t even care anymore if it wasn’t for Israel. ( Don’t think we would have send so many high diplomats and money to a conflict between two radical islamic countries).
          THERE IS A REASON WHY THE WEST DOES NOT CONDEMN ISRAEL, BECAUSE THE ACTIONS OF HAMAS ARE EVEN WORSE.

          The biggest problem Israel faces, as I see it, that they do not have competent persons to negotiate with. Instead you’ll have backward thinking lowlifes, that rather let their citizens stay in misery, than to change their hateful ideology.

          As a German I support Israel, which is the only country in the region, that has democracy, invest in education and not fundamentalist ideology, build a functioning economy, has a free press, excepts different opinions and so on.
          (Although I admit I do not favor the current government)

          @ Gybo:
          you almost got my support by condemming the actions of all parties. however as you are following those stupid arguments (which a fabricated myth of arabic world and only used to excuse for the miserable conditions they inflicted upon themselfes) and even start to defend Hamas, you lost it totally. Whatever will happen I hope for you that Hamas never wins. Because if they do you’ll find yourself in the next dictatorship and end up in prison because you were writing this blog. By the way, does Hamas know, who you are?

          If Germany behaved like Hamas after WW2, we would be still ocupied by the USA. Instead Germany is nowadays one of the biggest economies and most stable democracies in the world and I love to live in this country and travel to almost every country in the world. l would’t go to Gaza even if I could. I hope you can enjoy this freedom one day, too. However, actions speak louder than words, and as long as you vote for an extremist organisation that preaches hatred and send rockets you’ll probably have to wait as long as they are in power. These are the consequences of your own actions. Don’t blame others that you vote for some party that loves fight and fights love.

  8. #18 by Helena Cobban on January 9, 2011 - 1:33 am

    GYBO team, I am surely confused. In #14 here you write: “Hamas and Hezbollah and Fatah and the UFOS and the Chimpunks are not our enemies. We have ONE enemy; Zionism.” But the manifesto on your website, using a childish obscenity, starts off “F*** Hamas, F*** Israel, F*** Fateh… [etc]” Well, that’s how it was in English and most others of the languages there, except Turkish where you brought Israel to #1.

    So this is really is confusing. What actually is your message? How can people understand you?

    • #19 by Rastaman Vibration on January 23, 2011 - 7:24 pm

      I gather that you consider yourself to be some sort of journalist and quaker peace activist. Presumably you are “mature” and hence feel justified in looking down from your lofty heights and accusing people who live in a warzone, or should I say slaughter-zone cos cast lead was no “war”, of being “childish” and incoherent. Notice I said people who LIVE in a warzone, and who have no choice but to live there, not people who may have travelled to a warzone on a journalistic or religious assignment.
      But if you don’t understand what GYBO mean, then you are not as intelligent as you think you are. It’s perfectly clear to me and seems to be to others as well.
      Anyway they explain it all in the updated manifesto so check that out if you’re still confused.
      Personally, my enemies are more than one: capitalism is my enemy, white supremacy is my enemy, male supremacy is my enemy, fake brainwashing religious indoctrination of any stripe is my enemy, any heirarchical system that involves inequality and authoritarianism is my enemy. I consider myself a Rastaman and an Anarchist, so this whole babylon world system is my enemy. But people have priorities and I’m damn sure that if *I* lived in the Gaza strip I would know who my *main* enemy was.
      And the people who are on here going on about how Israelis feel pain and fear and terror too – of course they do, but it’s hardly equal and proportionate is it? Or what do you call 13 killed vs. 1300? What do you call one of the best-equipped armies in the world receiving billions in support every year from ameriKKKa (the first masters of genocide and land theft), vs. a few makeshift rockets? I am not justifying attacks on innocent people for any reason, it is morally wrong and tactically completely counter-productive, but it doesn’t emerge from a vacuum. It’s the behaviour of people who’ve had their backs forced against the wall time and time again. There were no suicide bombers or rocket launchers in the first initiada, there were kids armed with rocks against tanks. When the tanks then shoot those kids, some of their parents and brothers and sisters are going to want revenge. Anyone should be able to understand that.
      Anyway, nuff said, I’m not saying anything new. Nuff Respect to the GYBO team. “We know we shall win as we are confident in the victory of good over evil”. RASTAFARI

  9. #20 by Strawberryfield on January 9, 2011 - 9:04 am

    I agree with a lot you’re writing about. And I like your Manifesto!

    As a half Palestinian who lives in Switzerland I keep asking myself why are people still voting for Hamas and Fatha. Why not a political coup?? It’s your political system as well wich boycott a peaceful solution.

    Please don’t get me wrong, you have all my support! I felt tears coming when I read your Manifesto – I’m so glad there’s a new generation growing who doesn’t just repeat what the old ones say and stand up for themselfs.

    • #21 by Strawberryfield on January 9, 2011 - 9:17 am

      I just read your answer for Peter. It’s really surprising you elected Hamas. I think there’re not just “not perfect”, they are far far away from being a help for your wishes and needs.
      I dout that there can be a peaceful solution as long as Hamas has your support.
      What can they do for you?

  10. #22 by Luisa on January 9, 2011 - 10:39 am

    I’m sorry-or maybe no, I am not sorry. I agree with Peter. In your manifesto you denounced Hamas, now if you “fully support any group fighting Israel” well than, just continue to support Hamas and don’t cry out for the terrible situation you’re in. I don’t think the IDF is a terroristic organisation of young people that goes around killing because they don’t have anything better to do. And everytime there’s someone talking about what IDF does, I never hear someone talking about the Israeli side: what is it like to live with fear, to be afraid of taking a bus, everytime knowing this could be your last time? The problem is on both sides, the deaths are on both sides. ALWAYS. In every war.
    What I think people don’t get is that more than sticking just with one side and going against the other, if you say so “to eliminate” it, I think we should accept them. If we don’t accept each other, all you’re doing has no sense. The question is: are we able to hear the words “Palestine” and “Israel” at the same time, or as you hear the word “Israel” you’ll start denouncing what they do and as I hear the word “Palestine” I will start to denounce them?
    If we’re at the second one, well, this is all useless than.
    I’m studying at a highschool called United World College. If 200 people from all nations (Palestine and Israel also) can live in Peace, this tells you something. It tells you there is a chance, no matter how small, that we can make it. At least, this is what I like to believe. Because if I stop believing in this, it would be less painful to throw away my life and end it up here.

  11. #23 by john on January 11, 2011 - 1:19 pm

    Peter, is either quite ill-informed about the historical situation in Palestine, where the Zionists have been systematically ethnically cleansing the country of Palestinian People since 1947. He is either ignorant of the Nakba, or doesn’t want to know about it. Peter is also wrong about the views of Jews across the world including those living in the Apartheid State. Jews have been to the forefront of almost every struggle against brutality, starting with the Romans, and continue to do so. They are not at all confused about the destructive and inhuman role of Zionism, and across the world as knowledge of the Nakba unfolds they are extremely angry that such atrocities have been carried out in their name. Most Jews are extremely upset at the Apartheid Regime and its ethnic cleansing, which because of the media control in the Apartheid State. The Zionists want to continue to expand the Apartheid State and that is the motivation for the attacks on Gaza and the assignations, shootings of men women and children there. This is the same method of ethnic cleansing used by the Zionists since 03 December 1947, when they attack the first peaceful Palestinian village with the express purpose of terrorising the people out of their homes. They shot and killed and force marched the women and children to exile and took all males 10 to 55 years of age to prisons, some of whom were executed for defending the village. 200 more villages were ethnically cleansed before April 1948. These facts were taken from the Israeli Archives and included in an excellent book by Ilan Pappe “the ethnic cleansing of Palestine”. This is an excellent read and Peter could do worse than buy it and read it before he reproduces the same material that is released by the Apartheid State to cover up or defend its actions. But Peter must not claim to be speaking for Jews on this matter. Most Jews are thoroughly ashamed of the things Peter said above, and will only serve the Apartheid Regime.

    The solution must now be a single multi ethnic and democratic Palestinian state with safe return guaranteed for the refugees and their children and grand children that were shot, raped beaten out of their homes virtually every day since 03 Dec 1947.
    There must be fair and open trials for the creators of the Apartheid Regime who were involved in any way with ethnic cleansing.
    There are not many people (certainly not many Jews) now who will defend the Apartheid Regime as the truth is escaping from Gaza, the West Bank and other areas where the Apartheid Regime continues its ethnic cleansing. Only, persons in the pay of the Apartheid Regime and Peter are not aware of what Jews are REALLY thinking.

    • #24 by someone from the Western World. on January 24, 2011 - 6:00 pm

      where did you get your education? please sue them for feeding you with nonsense.

  12. #25 by jasper ben reichardt on January 16, 2011 - 2:15 pm

    At first i i thought GYBO is to be considered as a progressive movement for justice, peace and freedom

    BUT NOW, since you write bullshit like this:

    “But more than Fatah and Hamas, who remains Palestinians just like us, ABOVE ALL we denounce the Occupier & its puppet the International Community who fails, day after day, in its duty to impose sanctions on “Israel”.

    Our followers, readers, and those who are not supporting us yet must keep in mind THIS message: we have ONE enemy which is the Zionist Occupier.”

    YOUR ARE THE SAME BASTARDS!
    IF this is what is on your mind all the day, then go to hell – no more support from people like me – not if you dont fight islamic fascists – not if you divide between palestine and israeli, not if you are religious – folkish – racist.

    GO TO HELL!

    i am very very very shocked to read this and sad for GBYO – just another organisation propagating a extinction of israel. just another organisation helping the hamas – cause with saying hamas “is still palestinian” – you tolerate religious fascism, suicebombings of innocent people and islamic terrorism” – you are NONE better then HAMAS, you are in fact supporters of them.

    So your “FUCK HAMAS” – means nothing at all!

    shit, and i believed in your words.. ..

  13. #26 by jasper ben reichardt on January 16, 2011 - 2:25 pm

    ..so explain it to me: why is your unified eneym israel, an thus, all people beeing citizen of israel, and thus, why should this people NOT consider you also as an “enemy” regardless if you like hamas or not?!

    get it?! – this is exactly what you are fighting against!!

    by agreeing (even if only in parts!) with hamas, you are fucking up your own future.

    the ppl in israel also want to live in peace – so do you.

    answer me
    jasperreichardt@gmail.com

    • #27 by jews on August 13, 2011 - 11:26 pm

      Hello, i’m going to live in your house, but i think i have to kill ur parents and ur dog, can we live together in PEACE and FREEDOM in your house? of course after i kill ur parents and ur dog..

      and don’t ever try to be a hero because if u dare, you are a Terrorist because you trying to kill me in my new house, and i will call the police, and i bet the police will stand with me against you.

  14. #28 by Sami on January 18, 2011 - 5:59 pm

    I think the only thing missing from the manifesto (and I hope I did not overlook it) is that you failed to state that the occupation and “Israel” is the root cause for all the problems happening in Gaza. So when you start to place equal amount of blame on “everyone”, that is not fair or wise. You won’t go anywhere with it. Good luck

  15. #29 by Sami on January 18, 2011 - 6:03 pm

    Also lose the expletives from your manifesto and your message will be even more powerful. No need for F*%$& and Sh**(.

    • #30 by GYBO Team on January 20, 2011 - 5:56 pm

      Hi Sami, please have a look at our “GYBO – Manifesto 2.0” page.

  16. #31 by Tim on January 21, 2011 - 8:34 am

    You Guys were on NPR in the States today. Thumbs Up for your cause. I was once an ignorant American and blamed the Quoran for falling the towers and all the other crap. However after much research I’ve come to the conclusion that pure simple greed and a complete disregard for human life by those who benefit from the Military Industrial Complex are primarily responsible for the events leading up to 9-11.

    Believe me, no-one was more pissed than me. I saw the towers go down with my own eyes. I grew up in their shadows. Guys I went to school with were crushed and smoldered within the burning ash that stunk of death for weeks on end. I was aching for a fight with anyone in muslim garb walking the streets of Astoria, Queens.

    Now, how I wish my fellow Americans would wake up and realize just how shamelessly the US Government has allowed itself to be duped, tricked, coerced, bribed, bankrupted, and humiliated on the world stage by War and Fear Mongerers carrying out their devious deeds in the halls of congress, the state department, the pentagon, and so forth. Imagine, as the John Lennon song goes, what good could have been done instead with all the money, resources, time, talent, and sacrifice that went wasted on making and waging war.

    You guys are on the right track – it wasn’t terrorism that ultimately freed the US from British rule, nor did it work for Ireland, nor India, nor Israel, nor even the blacks within America – it all came down to a unified, concerted and steadfast message expressed peacefully from the people proclaiming their FREEDOM – freedom from oppression, freedom from occupation, freedom from intolerance, freedom from injustice, and most of all – freedom from self-victimization. God be with you in your pursuit for SELF-DETERMINATION, and as history as shown time and again, keep in mind the most truthful phrase of all – the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.

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